Episode 205

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8th Oct 2025

Keys, Clones, and Cobra Effects with Mike Maleski [E205]

Thanks to our Partner, NAPA Autotech Training and Pico Technology

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Live(ish) from ASTA 2025 in Raleigh, I “borrow” a guest from a Keith Perkins immobilizer class: Mike Maleski of PSK Automotive and Rosedale Technical College. We dig into the business of keys/immobilizers—what drew him in, locksmith gatekeeping, where OE tools beat aftermarket for workflow, flat-rate incentives (hello, Cobra Effect), cloning/EEPROM realities, and teaching diagnostics to the next generation. Also: yinzer linguistics, Applebee’s barters, and Tibbe-key kryptonite.

Mike Maleski — Owner/tech at PSK Automotive (Pittsburgh, PA) and instructor at Rosedale Technical College.

Topics we hit

  • Getting into keys: margins, ROI, and focusing the service line
  • Locksmith gatekeeping → locksmiths moving into module programming
  • Market realities: dense dealer competition vs. being “the only game in town”
  • Inventory truth: FCC IDs, chip types, look-alikes that aren’t
  • Aftermarket vs. OE: when GM/Volvo VIDA and other OE paths are faster/cleaner
  • Cutting machines: Dolphin starts; Triton support/updates; Tibbe/Jag quirks
  • Cloning & EEPROM: freeing used key slots (e.g., BMW), virginizing/clone vs. dealer order
  • Service mix & referrals: “different, not better,” building two-way trust
  • Pay plans & culture: misaligned incentives, base-plus-performance sanity
  • Wages vs. geography: think cost-of-living ratios, not raw dollars
  • Teaching at Rosedale: bench → car, lightbulb moments, ScannerDanner lineage

Quotes

  • “OE software isn’t always about coverage; sometimes it’s about friction.”
  • “Flat rate isn’t evil; misaligned incentives are.”
  • “You can stock 200 keys and still not have the right one.”

Takeaways

  • Adding keys/immobilizer? Plan inventory, price subs, know your dealer landscape, lean OE when it reduces rework.
  • Build referral networks; you won’t go broke sending work to the right specialist.
  • Audit incentives in your pay plan.
  • In teaching/mentoring, bridge breadboards to the messy reality of in-car faults early.

Thanks to our Partner, NAPA Autotech Training

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Diagnosing the Aftermarket A to Z
From Automotive Diagnostics to Metallica and Mental Health
Matt Fanslow's Diagnosing the Aftermarket A to Z Podcast is a wide-open perspective on all aspects of the automotive aftermarket from a working diagnosticians' point of view. All topics and issues will be on the table.